What do you consider a feminist?

Feel free to peruse this Feminist site. 
Nice design. 
Good to know there are non-radicals there.
As usual, they all support and "respect" a woman's right to choose (to kill her own children).


http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/04/20/feminisms/

4.20.2005
Feminisms: A Survey

Bitch Ph.D. recently wrote a piece on feminisms, but as a favor to a friend, I’d like to comb your brains for some additional definitions. She is doing a paper on feminism and nomothetic identity traits and wants some personal opinions from a feminist audience.

1. What do you consider a feminist?
2. What is a feminist not?
3. What traits (physical, social, intellectual, behavioral etc.) do you ascribe to feminism? What traits have been ascribed to you as a feminist?
4. What traits are explicitly unfeminist?
5. Are there people out there who cannot be feminists or claim feminism as we know it?

All answers, even the unpopular ones, are appreciated. Comment anonymously if you wish.


Feminists:

1. Worship Contraception.
2. Believe in Abortion.
3. Celebrate Euthanasia.
4. Support Gays, Lesbians and Homosexual Marriage.
5. Believe that the Family oppresses women.
6. Will divorce at the drop of a hat.
7. Want the total destruction of marriage.
8. Believe that Family should defy biology.
9. Believe that Men and Women are the same.
10. Hate Men.
11. Believe that all sex is rape.
12. Believe that Pope Ratzinger is a woman hater.

There’s more. A lot more.

To quote:

Feminists:

1. Worship Contraception.
-All too true. They think having kids can be a burden, that sex is just for human gratification. It isn't. By same token, they (and liberal theologians) find masturbation acceptable, when the reason why it isn't is that it's even more perverted than sex with a condom. Surprisingly though you will run across people who call themselves feminist but look down upon abortion and contraception. Maybe they only call themselves this out of ignorance or covenience, since strictly speaking they belong to a whole new different breed of theory all together. That has been my point all along. I now see that we just had a differnce in definition, and now that you've cleared this up, we now see things at eye-level.

2. Believe in Abortion.
-Since the child is a burden. Also, keeping with Cartesian tradition, the child is viewed as non-sentient and therefore cannt be said to be human yet.

3. Celebrate Euthanasia.
-Terry Schiavo anyone? That incident enraged me. While people are allowed to let the natural causes of their deaths run their course (by that meaning they neither accelerate nor decelerate the coming of death) in cases where finances are just too tight, killing someone outright, even with consent is murder. Again, people nowadays don't think this way because in keeping with Cartesian thought, the terminally ill are not lucid

4. Support Gays, Lesbians and Homosexual Marriage.
-What began as a mission to demand one's right to be gay has become a mission to demand that one with homosexual tendencies BE gay. The reason gay sex is not favored is that is can never lead to childbirth. Gay sex is in essence glorified masturbation.

5. Believe that the Family oppresses women.
-They fail to realize that when the sexes were created, SOMEONE had to end up making babies. C'mon! If it weren't for baby-making you wouldn't be around!

6. Will divorce at the drop of a hat.
-True, since marriage has been reduced to a sex license.

7. Want the total destruction of marriage.
-Granted as the direct effect os number 6. It's all about the sexual pleasure nowadays.

8. Believe that Family should defy biology.
-They don't even believe in marriage to begin with.

9. Believe that Men and Women are the same.
-God created all people equal but that doesn't mean they aren't different. They can reach the same heights of glory and achievement but not in the exact same manner. And that's not a problem. It's called diversity, and that's the spice of life.

10. Hate Men.
-More like they hate masculinity in general.

11. Believe that all sex is rape.
-Uhuh. It gets inthe way of personal glory when one suddenly becomes pregnant.

12. Believe that Pope Ratzinger is a woman hater.
-He isn't. He's just an essentialist.


Hey, looks like we finally understand each other! It all boiled down to definitions I see.

Check out this thread in the Feministe blog before they censor it.
I got them by the balls.

First thread - this is where I butted in.
http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/04/20/feminisms/

Second thread - They sought to make fun of me as a TROLL
http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/04/26/giving-trolls-the-attention-theyre-looking-for/#comments

I attached 2 PDF files so you can still read the replies.

The last one, I got banned for exposing the truth.

Typical of the Feminist liars is their CENSORSHIP. 
They cannot handle the truth.
They are so afraid of being exposed to their own brethren who will leave the movement if they found out that their treasured Feminism is really run by a bunch of radicals.

Feel free to pitch in on their blog and help me expose the feminists for lying to the real women.

The problem is that they misread the Biblical lines which read: "Woman, be subordinate to your man..." while totally ignorig the fact that a few lines later the scripture elaborates "and man, be subordinate to your woman."  Subordination here is not the oppressive type but the cooperative type.  Subordination literally means "to be under the order of" and not "thou are inferior to." Besides, it's actually both ways. The point of the good Pope in the letter was to simply re-iterate the Church stand on essentialism of the sexes, which is not a problem in reality. Human beings create inequality when they come up with concepts such as oppression and subjugation. Sin is a mortal creation, not God's.

As for flaming on their boards, I never do that because I believe in condemning the sin, never the sinner, which is why I never speak ill about feminists but only feminism per se. If I start a flame war, one, no one will listen. Two, I will look like I'm condemning them all Note that the way Ratzinger worded his letter he never went after the persons themselves, keeping thigs at a conceptual level. He was mentioning in specifics only people already in the Bible whereas in the post you made you condemned the feminists outright. This is a Catholic tactic you see, we don't believe in condemning sinners, only the sins, which is why if you realive Papal encyclicals are for most part written in the conceptual level. Three, it won't be constructive. The problem with many of the boarders as I see it is that their definitions conflict with ours. I already said it before, I'll say it again, feminism does not have a titular leadership which is why anyone out there in the street regardless of actual belief can call his or herself feminist. That is also why you will find so-called "feminists" who hate pro-choice stands, even though in reality they are not actually feminist.

And to top it off, there can be no fruitful debate when neither party has the same definition. We have one solid definition of the concept in question (feminism) whilst they have thousands of others. Debate cannot be meaningful in such a situation, and I bet you that even if we got all our supporters from these boards to attack the other messageboard, we won't be able to change them. If we cannot bring about change then we just wasted our energy. I suggest that we begin with those closest to us first, with this very messageboard before we do anything else. Ther're a lot of people here who will be more likely to be receptive to our help.

[Contraception - Abortion - Euthanasia - Easy Divorce]

Unfortunately, CENSORSHIP runs rampant in Feminism
They banned my cookies, they banned my IP addresses.
These are the latest posts.
It goes to show that Feminists really do worship:
Contraception - Abortion - Euthanasia - Easy Divorce


The title was giving Trolls the Attention, but when the truth got hot, she BANS me.
As demonstrated to the Public, truth hurts.

Does any Filipino in his right mind want to call himself a Feminist?

http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/04/26/giving-trolls-the-attention-theyre-looking-for/

#  Ryan Says:
April 27th, 2005 at 9:10 pm

From Comment #28, goodsamaritan calls me out:

    Good Samaritan loves women. I love my wife #1, I love my wife #2, I love my wife #3, I love my daughters, I love my mother, I love my grandmothers.

    I have no enemies. Do not put words in my mouth.

My understanding of the Parable of the Good Samaritan is that to attain eternal life, one must love his neighbors as one loves her or himself. A part of this, these days, is respecting the personal liberties of even your worst enemies. (And from your rhetoric, I would claim that you find the feminists you describe as (at least, ideological) enemies. You feel that the things things like abortion should be outlawed, no?)

I disagree that the basic foundations of feminism are contraception, abortion, euthanasia, and easy divorce. (Please explain this last one lest I “put words in [your] mouth”.) Feminists have stances on these issues that are derived from fundamental moral structures.

You may believe that euthanasia and divorce should be illelgalized, and that those who carry out abortions should be labeled as criminals. Unfortunately for you, this is not the case, and the majority of Americans would have it that these things you despise be considered personal liberties. If you don’t like it, you may leave.


# Ryan Says:
April 27th, 2005 at 9:12 pm

    FYI, this goodsamaritan is a God-Less, Pro-life, Anti-War, and living in Asia where marriages and families are solid.

Hmmm…well, I guess you’ve already left.


# godless-prolifer Says:
April 27th, 2005 at 9:46 pm

Ryan,

Unfortunately, your web master deems my posts as too much telling of the truth, exactly where it hurts.

She has BANNED my goodsamaritan ID.

If you feel that I am not a troll and would like to carry on this cerebral discussion, request that she not ban my ID.

(post removed at the initiative of the poster for containing unfounded information tantamount to slander)

It's probably for the best that you got banned. They would never have listened.
They're pretty damn convinced they're right, and I don't blame them if they grew up in that way with those beliefs.

I beg to differ with this analysis.  The real reason this Feminist banned me from future posting (which is not possible since I am a computer wizard), is she could not stand dissenting opinion that EXPOSES the TRUTH!

The Feminists are damn SCARED of debating toe to toe with a God-Less Prolifer.  They know that their only defense is to play the Catholic card.

Pro-Life should think about harnessing the services of more www.godlessprolifers.org and use them as the wrecking crew against the organized anti-life.

By the same token I don't blame you for being atheist,

I do not blame her for being a Feminist.  I am just exposing her lies.  Shake up her false foundations. Yo dream, the FEMINIST religion is the WORST!  Contraception, Abortion, Euthanasia, Homosexuality, Divorce -- tinumbok na nila lahat - Hard Core Anti-Life, Anti-Christ, Anti-God.

supporting masturbation (a prolife no-no in the Church),

Hey, I categorically deny your accusation bro.  Masturbation sucks.  The real thing is a lot better.

and for openly criticizing our pope, even if my Church might get really mad at you for doing so.

False accusation again here bro!  This is slander!
On the contrary: I ADORE Pope John Paul II (Wojtilla) and Pope Benedect XVI (Ratzinger)!
I think Catholics are usually just wonderful.
It is just unacceptable for any of my children to NOT REPRODUCE.

People have no right to judge others, but they can judge other people's actions and ideas.
...Anyway, if I were in your shoes I'd be annoyed myself. But I think we ought to pick our battles.

You should then begin to distinguish between judging and EXPOSING.
The Feminists should be EXPOSED for the ANTI-LIFE that they truly are.
The Feminists ACCEPT the FACTS that they are:

- Contraception Worshippers
- Abortion Worshippers
- Euthanasia Worshippers
- Easy Divorce Worshippers

These are the true CORE FEMINIST VALUES.
Feminism is NOT about giving women a better life.
Feminism represents the HARD CORE, ORGANIZED, ANTI-LIFE.

P.S. If only Pro-Life were as rich as the organized Anti-Life, they could fund me and a bunch of others to do the dirty work of EXPOSING the ANTI-LIFE on the internet.  This way, we can go full time and full blast, organized, concerted effort.  Invade message boards and discussions one by one and turn the tables on anti-life thinking, foster a pro-life ethic on the internet.

P.S.2. The end result of a Feminist culture is DEVALUATION OF THE DIGNITY of LIFE: Depopulation, Legal Slaughter of Innocents, Wholesale Destruction of Families.  Go see the western nations for yourself.

P.S.3. A full text of the Feministe discussion is posted in this reply in PDF format.

I got the notion of you being for masturbation in a post in the eneral discussion board, where there was ths woman who was asking about masturbatng during pregnancy and your only reply was "stay clear of foreign objects" something to that effect. That's already tantamount to support, and since you seem to be so black and white with your stands. I simply assumed that your non-condemnation equated to support. Anyway I now see that I misunderstood things so sorry, I beg your pardon and should you deem it necessary to mod the post for faming please do.

Then I got the impression that you were a papal critic when, in your reply to my interpretation of Populorum Progressio, you made an implication that the encyclical was obsolete because it was written so long ago. I beg to differ because we believe that doctrine never becomes obsolete. The accusation that the Church does nothing about the problem was also stinging because we do something about the problem, we just are diplomatic about it. I am however aware that you areultimately an ally in the struggle, and that is something I admire a lot. Few people have such dedication nowadays.

Hmmmm... your expository methods will seem a lot more palatable if they were written in a maner that's not too confrontational. The enemy's method of attack is seldom confrontational: they turn up the heat by degrees. They are so convincing because they are diplomatic about their methods unlike us who go straight to the point without dallying.

The problem is when we go spread our word, guns blazing and all potential converts feel overwhelmed immediately and they falter. That is no way to win back hearts, IMO.

Oh well, I will concede to one thing: someone has to do the fighting and I don't have a better idea on how to be more diplomatic about it myself. I also sometimes find that the Church does not make enough progress in the department, and sometimes I also wish they'd be more direct (though diplomcy has been generally effective in dealings with other religions, just not in this particular issue of life and loving life). I dunno, it might be the all the training I got with numeraries that's to blame for my stubborness (I never became one myself though). I just can't do the guns-blazing method myself because I stink at that.

Anyway, let's put the misunderstandings behind us. I am behind you 100%. I see now that I stand for theory and you stand for action, and action, not theory will win the war. Consider me a supporter, ad let's put the past behind us.

Thank you, thank you.  Someone who understands me.
I have been longing to write a book for 2 years now.

Maybe you know someone who would be willing to work with me and be an editor to tone down my writings so they will be palatable to the general public.  Yet still get the message across clearly.

I'm a much nicer guy in person.

I don't know of any specific people, though you may want to look around for fresh grads with degrees in Literature,  Communications, Journalism, Filipino, or English. All those courses offer subjects in creative writing and editing.

You can begin with grads from UA&P. They actually teach moral theology and Christian philosophy over there with none of that Liberation Theology stuff because the management is very strict.

Check out the teenager Bikoy who had a taste of Feminism 101:

http://bikoy.net/2005/04/27/sometimes-i-hate-girls/

There was one speaker from a feminist NGO who particularly caught my attention because I disagreed with the things she preached for around twenty minutes...

...she invited everyone to join some women-power rally on Wednesday (today). I was about to ask if the boys in CWTS could join the rally when she answered the question herself without being asked. She said, “At ang mga lalake, p’wede rin kayong sumali sa aming mga babae. Pero ngayon, kayo naman ang magluluto at mag-aalaga ng mga bata, kayo naman ang blah blah… habang kaming mga babae naman ang sumisigaw.”

Um. Okay. What the hell?

Let me share with you this. Because this is a personal irritant on my part which never fails to pull some strings of emotions and memories. Okay, you can say that girls “bullied” me and the other boys in our class when we were in grade school. We were around 40 in class (honors section). Only ten (10) were boys, the rest (30) were girls. Yes, tyranny of the majority. I really fucking hated how they always ganged up on boys every time one of us got into a petty argument with one of them. I swear, they were so effing dumb ang annoying. And what’s worse, every time a case gets to the teacher, the girls always win because the female teacher always sympathizes with them. The girls, when the advantage calls for it, always, always, always project themselves as the pitifully oppressed, even though they are the ones who often initiate the hateful exchange of physical and emotional hits. And when we boys strike back as a form of retaliation, they always invoke that bakla ang pumamapatol sa babae rhetoric. Ugh! It really infuritates me, ‘tang ina. Mean girls!! Nako, this is retarded, nag-iinit dugo ko by just typing this up. Call this trauma.

This is why I can not make myself fully sympathize with women-empowerment protests. Because women are sometimes guilty of the same gender-stereotyping they are fighting against, and most of all, some of them can be as mean as hell.

Who wants to marry a female who HATES COOKING and HATES TAKING CARE of CHILDREN?

I'll tell you, these kinds of women are not worth reproducing, their genes belong to the evolutionary trash dumpster labelled EXTINCT.

Reversal of roles does not equate to liberty. It's just a reversal of tyranny.

Did he mention which NGO it was? Becaucse I worked with a womens' rights group myself as part of my social responsibility requrement in college. I did some data encoding on criminal cases against women and children, and to be fair there are a lot of crimes out there but avenging tyranny with tyranny will get nowhere.

Anyway, the group I worked for might be the same group. Just wondering.

Check it out Pro-Lifers,

The Feminist crowd is eyeing this thread from:

http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/05/31/what-they-see-when-they-see-us/

Of course they think pro-lifers are a bunch of weirdos who have nothing to do but keep on saving children from murder (abortion) thinking parents and their accomplices.

Of course they think Pro-Lifers do not like sex... nothing could be further from the truth!  We love sex.  And when we score... we score babies.

Of course they think Pro-Lifers are against "strong" women... ha!  Sister Pilar is strong, Sister Cora is strong, Angie is strong, Ate Au is strong, Ate Rita is strong... and we men of Pro-Life get along really well with good strong women.

The same cannot be said of Feminists:
- They do not promote good relations between men and women.
- They do not promote strengthening of marriages.
- They do not promote the saving of children's lives.

The worst part is, they promote lie, censor, lie and censor.

Up to now, they have not lifted the ban on a big range of Philippine IP Addresses to access their web site of lie promotion.

They think they can stop me from viewing their lies... geez, simple manner of getting a proxy server and viewing more of their lies.

So people, keep reading the minds of the anti-life

http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2005/05/31/what-they-see-when-they-see-us/

In their twisted minds, they think they are doing good.

They do not realize that they are the Evil Empire... just like Annakin Skywalker aka Darth Vader.

Who's descendants will be decimated in the future?  The Anti-Life. and their zombie followers.
Who's descendants will rule the world again? Pro-Lifers. Pro-Natalists

Our descendants will write history.  As they always do.  e.g. the Bible, the Koran